Is doing this correct to get a file list with ALL (custom) properties?

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Biff
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Is doing this correct to get a file list with ALL (custom) properties?

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Is doing this correct to get a file list with ALL (custom) properties?

I marked a drive letter in the folder panel, checked the "Subfolders" checkbox, clicked in the result list (or pressed TAB to get the focus there), pressed CTRL+A, then CTRL+E, then CTRL+S and clicked the save button in that save window.

Obviously only "Length" is shown.

When I open the file list (efu) and activate a filter most of the properties are not shown? Why?

How could I in a file list (with different filters / bookmarks) show / use each of the properties?
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Re: Is doing this correct to get a file list with ALL (custom) properties?

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Biff wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:08 am Obviously only "Length" is shown.
Why is that obvious?


Everything will export the properties when the associated columns are shown in the result list.
For exxample if the 'Artist' column is not shown in the result list, it will not be exported.

Also: After pressing 'CTRL + SHIFT + E', (not 'CTRL + E' !!) a progress bar will be shown (in the statusbar), indicating Everything is still gathering information.
That process has to finish before saving the results.

Furthermore, gathering properties of off-line files is technically impossible when the properties aren't indexed for these files.
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Many thanks!
Why is that obvious?
Because the free size is shown for some or many file. And obviously none of the other properties.
Everything will export the properties when the associated columns are shown in the result list.
So by "Read extended information" is meant, the ones of the visible columns only? Or the ones only of the filter just being used?

How could I export ALL of the (custom) properties?
Also: After pressing 'CTRL + SHIFT + E', (not 'CTRL + E' !!)
Sorry, does not look like that here:
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a progress bar will be shown (in the statusbar), indicating Everything is still gathering information.
Cannot see such progress bar here. How could one show it?
That process has to finish before saving the results.
It appears it is not possible to save / export before, but it is? So you have to make sure that it is finished?
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Re: Is doing this correct to get a file list with ALL (custom) properties?

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Biff wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:21 pm Because the free size is shown for some or many file. And obviously none of the other properties.
We don't know what is shown on your screen. We only have the information you post in this thread.
This is all we know:
I marked a drive letter in the folder panel, checked the "Subfolders" checkbox, clicked in the result list (or pressed TAB to get the focus there), pressed CTRL+A, then CTRL+E, then CTRL+S and clicked the save button in that save window.
We don't know what properties are shown in your result list unless you tell us.

Biff wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:21 pm Sorry, does not look like that here:
OK. CTRL + E was the default keyboard shortcut in Everything 1.4. In 1.5 it is CTRL+SHIFT+E.
I guess you copied your 1.4 ini-file over to be used in 1.5.
Anyway, then 'CTRL + E' is indeed the shortcut to use in your case.


What happens when you scroll through the files? Do you see the property columns get filled with data?

Biff wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:21 pm How could I export ALL of the (custom) properties?
All of them? there are 350+ different properties ...
Or do you mean all property-columns in the resultlist?


This is the progress bar that will be shown (automatically; you don't need to take some action) when reading Extended Information:
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Re: Is doing this correct to get a file list with ALL (custom) properties?

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Very sorry for my bad expression / English. It appears nobody understands nothing or even less.
We don't know what is shown on your screen. We only have the information you post in this thread.
Yes, yes, that absoulutely sounds plausible, is what I would thing as well. How could it be otherwise.
We don't know what properties are shown in your result list unless you tell us.
Well, that is quite different, depends on the filters I use, etc. I would say. Or do you mean special properties?
What happens when you scroll through the files? Do you see the property columns get filled with data?
No no, I do not see the property columns get filled with data, that was why I asked here, why I opened this thread. Sorry again for my bad expression / English. That is the problem: I DO NOT see the values under the property columns after exporting / saving a file list. That's what I'm talking about in this thread. So how could I export those properties so I could see them in a file list?
All of them? there are 350+ different properties ...
Or do you mean all property-columns in the resultlist?
No, I mean ALL (so really all, no one left) the properties I set, I activated in the properties tab:

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This is the progress bar that will be shown (automatically; you don't need to take some action) when reading Extended Information:
Thank you for the screenshot. Yes, but it was not shown here. May be I have to wait some more time until it is shown / I can recognize it.
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Re: Is doing this correct to get a file list with ALL (custom) properties?

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Filename, Size, Date Modified, Date Created and attributes columns are always saved when exporting to EFU.
Any other shown columns are also saved when exporting to EFU.

Only gathered values for properties are saved when exporting to EFU.
Exporting to EFU will not gather unindexed property values.
As you are already doing (for others reading), please select all files and gather extended information from File -> Read Extended Information before exporting.


When I open the file list (efu) and activate a filter most of the properties are not shown? Why?
Could you please provide a specific property that is not shown.
Could you please open your EFU file in Notepad and provide the EFU header (the top line) and a sample item (second or third item)
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Only gathered values for properties are saved when exporting to EFU.
Gathered values are the values of the indexed properties (a user set in the properties tab) only being exported after clicking "Read extended information" (independently of what columns are shown in the result list)? So when I want to export / see ALL the values of ALL the (indexed) properties (also the ones of which the columns are NOT in the result list at the moment) I have set in the properties tab (NOT each one available generally / at all, more than 350 or so) in a file list (efu) I have to click "Read extended information" before saving / exporting?
Could you please provide a specific property that is not shown.
Yes, these ones (without values under the columns):

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The (indexed) "Length" values seem to be shown ALWAYS (when the Length column is visible), even without gathering information (clicking "Read extended information") or being in the reslult list before / while exporting. Why is that?
Could you please open your EFU file in Notepad and provide the EFU header (the top line) and a sample item (second or third item)
Yes:
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Gathered values are the values of the indexed properties (a user set in the properties tab) only being exported after clicking "Read extended information" (independently of what columns are shown in the result list)? So when I want to export / see ALL the values of ALL the (indexed) properties (also the ones of which the columns are NOT in the result list at the moment) I have set in the properties tab (NOT each one available generally / at all, more than 350 or so) in a file list (efu) I have to click "Read extended information" before saving / exporting?
Gathered values will included your indexed properties.

Ideally, values for indexed properties will already be gathered.

Please make sure Everything has finished indexing your properties before exporting.
A progress bar is shown at the bottom right in the status bar if Everything is indexing your properties.



Reading extended information is for unindexed properties.


Could you please provide a specific property that is not shown.
Thank you for the missing properties and EFU header.

Your EFU header is missing these columns.
Did you export with the Aspect Ratio, Dimensions etc... columns shown?
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Gathered values will included your indexed properties.
Sorry, I don't understand what that means regarding my questions. So this is wrong or partially wrong or completely or partially not understandable or / and else(?):
Gathered values are the values of the indexed properties (a user set in the properties tab) only being exported after clicking "Read extended information" (independently of what columns are shown in the result list)? So when I want to export / see ALL the values of ALL the (indexed) properties (also the ones of which the columns are NOT in the result list at the moment) I have set in the properties tab (NOT each one available generally / at all, more than 350 or so) in a file list (efu) I have to click "Read extended information" before saving / exporting?
Ideally, values for indexed properties will already be gathered.
Sorry again, what does that mean? How could they be already or not already be gathered?
Please make sure Everything has finished indexing your properties before exporting.
A progress bar is shown at the bottom right in the status bar if Everything is indexing your properties.
Really indexing? Or gathering? I click "Read extended information" (after having marked the files, 74.000, in the result list, etc.), no progress bar shown respectively I cannot see any, I press CTRL+S.
Reading extended information is for unindexed properties.
Oops, for unindexed? Oops, oops, a completely new information for me. And which ones of the unindexed? So what then does "Read extended information" do when I want to make a file list (efu) of an offline drive? Respectively why should one click it at all then? I had understood it is for "extended information" which is the properties, the properties being indexed only (no others) and the ones that are set in the properties tab. Those proterties additionally to the (always) exported (standard) properties (I guess, size, modified, etc.). OK, very sorry, so I would say I do not understand nothing and anything and else. May be I should write it in the signature. Sorry again.
Did you export with the Aspect Ratio, Dimensions etc... columns shown?
No, I didn't. But it works here (without needing to click "Read extended information").

Let's say I wanted to do this: I want to make a file list with ALL the files / folders of the drive O: being offline now. I want to have in this file list the "standard" properties (modified, accessed, etc., which, I assume / I understood, are ALWAYS exported, written into a file list when one makes a file list) and ALL of the properties being set in the properties tab. The properties I added to the properties tab (which are on the screenshot above). All of these properties ARE indedexd, respectively should be indexed. So I want all of my / these properties (not the properties not being added to the properties tab, over 350 or so) to be in this file list. So I want a file list of offline drive O: (so it is not connected with the computer) with ALL the files and ALL MY properties (not all the properties available at all, only the ones I added to the properties tab and the "standard" properties).
Is that possible? If yes, how would I have to do that? Or is it not possible at all?
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Everything only exports information that has been gathered for columns that are currently shown.
Properties you index under Tools -> Options -> Properties will already have all the information gathered.
Exporting will not gather information from unindexed properties. (properties that are not included under Tools -> Options -> Properties)



I have plans to add property support to ES.
This will give you more control when exporting.



For now, you will need to show the columns of interest before exporting.
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Properties you index under Tools -> Options -> Properties will already have all the information gathered.
So no need for "Read extended information".
Exporting will not gather information from unindexed properties. (properties that are not included under Tools -> Options -> Properties)
So that is why you have to use "Read extended information"? For the not indexed properties only?
I have plans to add property support to ES.
This will give you more control when exporting.
Sounds great, I assume, using these command lines is a bit more uncomfortable than the GUI. So one has to open such a cmd window and enter the command lines there. The ES has to be in the same folder Everything is?
For now, you will need to show the columns of interest before exporting.
OK, thank you.
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So that is why you have to use "Read extended information"? For the not indexed properties only?
Correct.


The ES has to be in the same folder Everything is?
No.
You can place ES.exe anywhere.
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OK, thank you very much!
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So that is why you have to use "Read extended information"? For the not indexed properties only?

Correct.
But what does Everything do then after I click on "Read extended information" when I export a file list of an offline drive? Why does it last about a half hour if there are no (extended) information which could be read?
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Please try including the following in your search before reading extended information:

!offline:
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Sorry, why? And what does that mean to my question?
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Everything is waiting for your offline volumes to come online.

Including !offline: in your search will help prevent the slow read extended information.
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OK, many thanks!
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