How find folders whose name is NOT delimited by symbol

[burgundy]

I wish to find a file with a wholeword name that is NOT delimited by a punctuation symbol.

For example, I wish to find a file called

railway

but NOT see hits of files whose name contains

european.railway

I had hoped the search menu options for "Match Whole Words" and "Ignore Punctuation" may have helped but unfortunately not.

Can anyone advise how to formulate my search correctly?

[NotNull]

You need to be more specific than the example you provided.
To me european.railway is not NOT delimited by a punctuation symbol as it does not end with a punctuation character.
Furthermore: how should filenames like european.railway.txt be handled?

[burgundy]

Essentially, I wish to find files whose wholeword name is neither immediately preceded nor immediately followed by a punctuation symbol.

The example I gave of "railway" earlier is the full name of the files I seek, not a part of it. So I do not want the following.

european.railway
european-railway
railway.travel
railway-travel
european.railway.travel
european-railway-travel
etc

Is it possible to formulate a search to obtain this result?

[NotNull]

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folder:   !regex:\p{P}

Basically this will find all folders that do not have any punctuation character in their name.


For mode details, see Menu => Help => Regular Expression Syntax


EDIT: Missed the "folders" part in your question. Adapted the search query accordingly.

[void]

Please consider:

folder:regex:(^|\s)railway($|\s)


^ = match start of filename
| = OR
\s = match a 'space' character
$ = match end of filename



Do you want to allow .extension after railway?

If so:

regex:stem:(^|\s)railway($|\s)

(only useful if you wanted to match files)



For Everything 1.4, please use:

folder:regex:"(^|\s)railway($|\s)"

(use double quotes to escape | )

[burgundy]

The example being used in this thread does not cover other instances where punctuation could be ignored.

For instance, I want to search for "KR" but not get hits where it is preceded or followed by a special character (which I tend to consider is a type of punctuation character.

I DO NOT want to see hits on the following (with underscore symbol before or after):

menu_KR_old.png

menu_KR.png

KR_old.png

I DO want to see hits on the following (with space before or after):

menu KR old.png

menu KR.png

KR old.png

Is there a way to do this without using Regex?

[therube]

Maybe

ww:" KR"

(or, folder: ww:" KR").

(That fails on the last example.)

Maybe

nopath:wildcards:*[!_]KR[!_]*

.
And in the '[!_]' pairs, you would put any characters you want to exclude, so perhaps, [!_.-] kind of thing.

(Nope, that's not going to work either, is it.)


If wildcards: supported <space> (\s) (or !\s) then maybe, but probably still not.

[void]

I will add an advanced filename_underscore_word_character setting for backwards compatibility with Everything 1.4.
When enabled, _ will be treated as a word character.
(this is the first post asking to treat _ as a word character -countless requests to treat _ as a non-word character)



For now, please use regex:

regex:\bkr\b

\b = word boundary

[burgundy]

I thought I had understood how Ignore punctuation works but I am beginning to wonder if my understand is flawed. When I search for

Rebouche,

I would like to find a file with the following name but it does not get listed, irrespective of whether I have Ignore Punctuation on or off:

Rebouche Kinetics pharmacokinetics, and regulation

I thought Ignore punctuation was specifically designed to ignore the punctuation symbol in cases like this. I am getting more puzzled! Can anyone kindly explain what I am getting wrong.

[tuska]

With or without "Ignore Punctuation" ticked I find
Rebouche,
Rebouche Kinetics pharmacokinetics, and regulation
in 'Everything' 1.5.0.1383a (x64)

[therube]

No.

There is a difference between a search term provided,
& search results returned.

Ignore Punctuation deals with the results returned.

A search of "Rebouche," is specifically looking for "Rebouche," - comma included.
That comma is not found in "Rebouche Kinetics...", so no result will be returned.

Ignore Punctuation does not filter the search term ("Rebouche,").


That said, you may be able to filter a search term, depending on how you go about things.
A search term can be pre-filtered prior to sending it to Everything, or there are various functions that may filter a search term.

[tuska]

That comma is not found in "Rebouche Kinetics...", so no result will be returned.

Rebouche Kinetics pharmacokinetics, and regulation

?

[therube]

If the search were

Rebouche ,

- there is a space in there, so "Rebouche" AND "," then what you show would be found.

But, the search is 1 "word" (string, term), & that "word" is 9 characters in length containing both letters [a-Z] (8 of them) & 1 "symbol", "," (Rebouche,) & that is not found in "Rebouche Kinetics pharmacokinetics, and regulation".

[tuska]

2therube
I'm very sorry, unfortunately I didn't read the topic properly.

Now I can also confirm that
Rebouche Kinetics pharmacokinetics, and regulation
is NOT found when you search for Rebouche,
regardless of whether "Ignore Punctuation" is ticked or not.

[void]

Punctuation is ignored in filenames.

Punctuation in your search is not ignored by default.



To ignore punctuation in your search:
Paste text with Ctrl + Shift + V

-or-

Right click the Search box and click Paste without punctuation

-or-

• In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
• Click the Advanced tab on the left.
• To the right of Show settings containing, search for:
  punc
• Select: ignore_punctuation_type
• Set the value to: Filename and search
• Click OK.
  edit: Enable Ignore punctuation from the Search menu.

[tuska]

2void

Only this option unfortunately did not work for me:
Everything Options - 1.5.0.1383a (x64) - Advanced > ignore_punctuation_type > Filename and search

Only if I also right-click in the footer and select "Ignore Punctuation",
then I get the expected result.

[void]

Ignore punctuation must be enabled to apply the advanced ignore_punctuation_type setting.

[tuska]

Ignore punctuation must be enabled to apply the advanced ignore_punctuation_type setting.

Thank you for the clarification.

I have now set the "Filename and search" option,
as I am interested in getting as many search results as possible.

[burgundy]

Ignore punctuation must be enabled to apply the advanced ignore_punctuation_type setting.

I finally managed to get this working as I wished. However, the point above about enabling "ignore punctuation" is not intuitive. I wonder if there's a way to make this easier for other users.

[void]

I probably have a misunderstanding with the usage..

Are users typing in the punctuation? What are they expecting the typed-in punctuation to match?

[void]

Everything 1.5.0.1384a adds an advanced filename_underscore_word_character setting.

To treat an underscore as a word character in filenames:

• In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
• Click the Advanced tab on the left.
• To the right of Show settings containing, search for:
  underscore
• Select: filename_underscore_word_character
• Set the value to: true
• Click OK.

Everything 1.5.0.1384a improves the advanced ignore_punctuation_type setting.

Search functions, Search modifiers and macros will now work normally when ignore_punctuation_type is set to "Filename and search".

[tuska]

Everything 1.5.0.1384a improves the advanced ignore_punctuation_type setting.
Functions will now work normally when ignore_punctuation_type is set to "Filename and search".

Mmh, I'm uncertain about the 2 test results.

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D:\TEMP\Rebouche Kinetics pharmacokinetics, and regulation
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Advanced:   ignore_punctuation_type = Filename and search
!PUNC  	    ✓ Ignore Punctuation
Search for: Rebouche,
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Finds:
D:\TEMP\Rebouche Kinetics pharmacokinetics, and regulation

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D:\TEMP\Rebouche Kinetics pharmacokinetics, and regulation
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Advanced:   ignore_punctuation_type = Filename and search
Search for: Rebouche,
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Finds:	    Nothing.

Without “!PUNC ✓ Ignore Punctuation”, Everything 1.5.0.1385a (x64) can't find anything.

ignore_punctuation_type
Ignore punctuation in the filename or filename and search.
0 = filename only. (default)
1 = filename and search.

Shouldn't Everything find the search term Rebouche, even with “ignore_punctuation_type = Filename and search”?

[void]

Ignore Punctuation must be enabled for ignore_punctuation_type to work.

[tuska]

Ignore Punctuation must be enabled for ignore_punctuation_type to work.

OK, thanks for the clarification!