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ChrisGreaves
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Post by ChrisGreaves »

Straight up: my apologies. I am still wrestling with a new HP15 laptop, Win11, and dazzling sunshine blinding me.
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This partial screen-snapshot shows my (for today) normal view of the Everything screen, and superimposed a look at "Tools -> Debug -> Statistics -> Build -> Rebuild Reason" as advised in the post Being able to search while Everything is indexing

I have been playing with Win11 settings, display size/resolution, font size etc etc, and I can read the Everything Screen but not the auxiliary popup box.
I have a post on this at The last rebuild reason" and other DEBUG screens

My latest puzzle is why the pop-up screen in Everything does not show results in the font characteristics recognized by the system. I suspect the answer is "because that is hard-wired into my native pop-up boxes" or similar. And that's OK. I can understand that. But if there was a simple setting to make use of what I think are called "system fonts", might that be put on a todo list?

It's possible that I don't know what I'm talking about here. My Word2003 shows the same problem: minuscule text in dialog boxes because back when Word2003 was just a gleam in an accountant's eye Win11 designers weren't born, judging by some of the idiotic decisions in Win11, and in the intervening twenty years sundry DLLs have been dropped or re-purposed.

Thanks, Chris
NotNull
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Re: font size

Post by NotNull »

There is a separate ini-setting for that (not available in the Options GUI afaik).

But before that, when multiple applications use unreadable small fontsizes:
  1. Set the Windows DPI
    - Right-click the desktop => Display Settings: Set Scale to an appropriate size
  2. If Everything fonts sttill unreadable small:
    Menu: Tools => Options => General => UI: Set Scale to an appropriate size.
  3. If still not OK: Menu: Tools => Options => General => Fonts and Colour : change fontsizes for each control
  4. If Statistics fontsize still too small:
    • Type or paste the following in the searchbar and press ENTER
      /dialog_pointsize=20
    • Restart Everything (I thought this was needed; not sure though)
    • Change dialog_pointsize until satisfied.
ChrisGreaves
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Re: font size

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NotNull wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:23 pm [*]Set the Windows DPI
- Right-click the desktop => Display Settings: Set Scale to an appropriate size
[*]If Everything fonts still unreadable small:
Menu: Tools => Options => General => UI: Set Scale to an appropriate size.
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:clapping: :brilliant: :thanks: :loud and prolonged applause:
Thanks Not Null.
I got as far as
(1) setting the desktop to 1920x1080 (I think that that is dots per inch)
(2) scaling to 150% (which seemed to be an enormous value, to me)
with the result show above, which (result) is enough to keep me on this new laptop/os and NOT go back to Win7 (grin).

I know that the Everything font size seems the same, but relative to the background (Windows fonts), the ET font size is increased.

I have parked your instructions and will go through them again if any other application strains my eyesight (e.g. Word2003/VBE).

Now, back to work, me!
Thanks again, Chris
meteorquake
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Re: font size

Post by meteorquake »

1920x1080 is dots on the whole screen. The eye (quick google) sees about 350 dpi but due to the nature of things in practice about 900 dpi seems to be used for the eye. d
ChrisGreaves
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Re: font size

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meteorquake wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:52 am 1920x1080 is dots on the whole screen. The eye (quick google) sees about 350 dpi but due to the nature of things in practice about 900 dpi seems to be used for the eye. d
Thanks meteorquake .
"dots" as in "pixels"?
1400x1050 is the lowest resolution above 900 pixels/dpi, so for curiousity value (I am a text, not a gamer) I have set resolution to that for the time being while I test the different scales for half a dozen commonly-used applications.

I run plenty of outdated applications (e.g. Word2003) so I suspect that some applications just won't have a clue how to adapt the the settings available today.
Cheers, Chris
NotNull
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Re: font size

Post by NotNull »

Windows will detect the optimal (native) resolution of the monitor panel automatically.

To set or detect:
- right-click the desktop
- select Display Settings from the context menu
- Click the dropdown button in the Display resolution box
- Set it to whatever value is (Recommended)

(in my opinion it should say (Highly recommended) as this is by far the best setting)

Scaling of applications can be done later on (compatibility settings for older applications).


If the native resolution of your panel is (for example) 1920*1080 pixels, grab a ruler and measure the width of the panel.
Let's say it is 24 inch, then your ppi (pixels per inch) equals 1920/24 = 80.
The pixels are considered to be square, sono need to measure the height


BTW: dpi (dots per inch) is for printing; ppi is for screens.
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Re: font size

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NotNull wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:07 pm Windows will detect the optimal (native) resolution of the monitor panel automatically.
Thanks for this NotNull

@All I think that my font problems were brought about when my new latop screen (1920x1080) ran into Word2003.

The first document I loaded had font that was probably readable at 100% zoom on the old laptop, but sent me into a panic at this higher resolution. Same for web pages. Thus panicked I began zooming in and zooming out AND changing resolution like a mad beginner.

I seem to have resolved the issue with a factory reset on the laptop about a week ago, and by keeping my hands away from the keyboard and mouse :lol:

Of course many applications have their own "zoom" mechanisms, so there is no easy way to set up a global setting.

My main concern in the topic was that Everything's font size seemed to disregard the Windows 111 settings. I now think/know that that is not the case.

Thanks to all
Chris
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