High internet usage?

[allend]

I have latest Everything installed on Win10home, and I noticed that there's nearly 1Gb of data used by Everything.
I do not use FTP / HTTP so as far as I would think, it should only need an occasional "phone home" to see if there are any program updates.

Why is so much data being used?
Thanks!

[raccoon]

"Internet Usage" isn't measured in "1GB of data" on Windows computers. This sounds more like a cellphone terminology.

Can you please share a screen shot of where it says Everything has "Used 1GB of data"?

Could you be mistaken, and Everything is using 1GB of RAM (computer memory)? This would be more likely a scenario. Indexing many millions of files, file properties and document contents, can consume about a gigabyte of RAM usage to load its database.

[void]

Everything should not have any network activity by default.

Check for updates is off by default.
Check for updates can be set under Tools -> Options -> General -> Check for updates on startup.



Older versions of Everything (1.3 or earlier) would show communication with the local Everything Service as network data.
Please make sure you are using Everything 1.4 or later.



Please check for active connections with netstat -abn:

• From the Start menu, search for: cmd
• Right click Command Prompt and click Run as administrator.
• Run the following command:

  Code: Select all

  netstat -abn
  

• Check the connections listed above [Everything.exe]
• Is anything shown?

Please check for active connections with Resource Manager:

• Press Ctrl + Shift + ESC to open the Task Manager.
• Click the Performance tab.
• Click Open Resource Monitor.
• In the Resource Monitor, click the Network tab.
• Is anything shown for Everything.exe?

What program are you using to view network data?
Maybe a process run from Everything is using network data? Check child processes with Process Explorer
Maybe a rogue shell extension?

To disable shell extensions:

• Copy and paste the following into your Everything search box:
  /icon_shell_extensions=0
• Press ENTER in your Everything search box.
• If successful, icon_shell_extensions=0 is shown in the status bar for a few seconds.
• Copy and paste the following into your Everything search box:
  /context_menu_shell_extensions=0
• Press ENTER in your Everything search box.
• If successful, context_menu_shell_extensions=0 is shown in the status bar for a few seconds.

icon_shell_extensions
context_menu_shell_extensions



Please make sure you download Everything from https://www.voidtools.com
Please make sure your Everything.exe is code signed by voidtools.

[allend]

"Internet Usage" isn't measured in "1GB of data" on Windows computers. This sounds more like a cellphone terminology.

Can you please share a screen shot of where it says Everything has "Used 1GB of data"?

Could you be mistaken, and Everything is using 1GB of RAM (computer memory)? This would be more likely a scenario. Indexing many millions of files, file properties and document contents, can consume about a gigabyte of RAM usage to load its database.

To be fair, My wifi is through a 4G modem on Three phone network, but it's still high usage, right?

[void]

Are you showing thumbnails or previews of files in the cloud?

[allend]

Everything should not have any network activity by default.

Check for updates is off by default.
Check for updates can be set under Tools -> Options -> General -> Check for updates on startup.



Older versions of Everything (1.3 or earlier) would show communication with the local Everything Service as network data.
Please make sure you are using Everything 1.4 or later.

Version 1.4.1.1022 (x64)


Please check for active connections with netstat -abn:

• From the Start menu, search for: cmd
• Right click Command Prompt and click Run as administrator.
• Run the following command:

  Code: Select all

  netstat -abn
  

• Check the connections listed above [Everything.exe]
• Is anything shown?

I have nothing for Everything.exe, but there are numerous listings for both "SearchApp.exe" and "Can not obtain ownership information"


Please check for active connections with Resource Manager:

• Press Ctrl + Shift + ESC to open the Task Manager.
• Click the Performance tab.
• Click Open Resource Monitor.
• In the Resource Monitor, click the Network tab.
• Is anything shown for Everything.exe?

nothing

What program are you using to view network data? Windows --> settings --> network & internet --> data usage
Maybe a process run from Everything is using network data? Check child processes with Process Explorer
Maybe a rogue shell extension?

To disable shell extensions:

• Copy and paste the following into your Everything search box:
  /icon_shell_extensions=0
• Press ENTER in your Everything search box. no results
• If successful, icon_shell_extensions=0 is shown in the status bar for a few seconds.
• Copy and paste the following into your Everything search box:
  /context_menu_shell_extensions=0
• Press ENTER in your Everything search box. no results
• If successful, context_menu_shell_extensions=0 is shown in the status bar for a few seconds.

icon_shell_extensions
context_menu_shell_extensions



Please make sure you download Everything from https://www.voidtools.com
Please make sure your Everything.exe is code signed by voidtools.

Yes I did download from voidtools

[raccoon]

I agree with the assessment that applications launched from within Everything, will cause Windows to attribute that application's network use to Everything -- being the parent process. You launch an application from Everything by opening a file associated with that application.

Here's what happens when I open 3 video files and a couple office documents from Everything. The process tree from ProcessExplorer shows Everything as the parent process to VLC and LibreOffice. So Everything is going to rack up any statistics generated by those child processes.

PROCEXP64_HKIMLw2y82.png (4.46 KiB) Viewed 2661 times

@void: Is there a setting to redirect all Shell Executes to allow applications to launch as their own parent process (under Explorer)? I still struggle with one program inheriting Everything's process priority (should be idle, but it's not when launched by Everything).

[allend]

@void:
Please make sure you are using Everything 1.4 or later. --> using Version 1.4.1.1022 (x64)

Please check for active connections with netstat -abn: [*]Is anything shown?

nothing for everything, but a few for SearchApp.exe, and some more for "can not obtain ownership information"

Please check for active connections with Resource Manager: [*]Is anything shown for Everything.exe?

nothing

What program are you using to view network data? Windows settings --> network & internet --> data usage (see attachment for other post)

To disable shell extensions:

/icon_shell_extensions=0
[*]Press ENTER in your Everything search box. nothing

/context_menu_shell_extensions=0
[*]Press ENTER in your Everything search box. nothing

downloaded from voidtools

[therube]

Isn't there IPC between Everything.exe & the Everything service.

Might "Data Usage" be seeing that?
(In which case there is nothing going "out" on the Internet, only local.)


Or, as raccoon said, if you have run a program, from Everything (so that program is the child, Everything is the parent), & that program is using "Data" maybe "Data Usage" is picking up on that rather then (correctly) showing that Everything is not using "data", but rather the program that you are running from Everything, is.

Process Hacker/Process Explorer should point that out.

https://processhacker.sourceforge.io/
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysin ... s-explorer

If you're on Win8 or up, you can see what this gives you (& it might be more straight forward):
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/network_usage_view.html


Everything is not using I/O (though I happened to capture it a moment when it was - though it is not "Internet" usage).
mpvnet (mpv media player) is using I/O, streaming a movie.
.

Everything NOT using IO, mpv IS.png (26.54 KiB) Viewed 2609 times

[void]

Isn't there IPC between Everything.exe & the Everything service.

Everything 1.3 and earlier: Yes, counts as network data.
Everything 1.4 and later: No, does not count as network data.



Are you showing thumbnails or previews of files in the cloud?