Offline volumes not "offline:" nor "offline_alpha"

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raccoon
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Offline volumes not "offline:" nor "offline_alpha"

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1.5.0.1315a

With "Remove offline volumes" disabled (just now), then bringing the volumes online, they indexed... and then I put them offline, they show as Offline under the Indexes > NTFS tab... However, the "offline:" verb returns zero results, and the offline volume objects do not appear 50% transparent.

Everything *knows* the volumes are offline according to the Indexes > NTFS tab, but it does not translate this knowledge to the indexed objects themselves. I don't know why.
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Re: Offline volumes not "offline:" nor "offline_alpha"

Post by void »

Thanks for the bug report raccoon,

Are you monitoring changes for this volume? (Tools -> Options -> NTFS -> Volume -> Monitor changes)
If disabled, Everything will see the online/offline status for this volume as unknown.

Does the statistics online status show online/offline under Tools -> Debug -> Statistics -> NTFS Index -> Online: ?
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Re: Offline volumes not "offline:" nor "offline_alpha"

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This is a limitation with the Everything Service.
Currently the Everything Service reports all volumes as "online".

I will work on a fix.
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Re: Offline volumes not "offline:" nor "offline_alpha"

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It seems to be a bug with the verb "offline:" itself, as the verb "online:" works as expected.

Am I monitoring changes? Yes. On each volume.

The online status under NTFS Index > Online: are the correct combination of Yes and (blank).

Here are a few screen shots too.

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Re: Offline volumes not "offline:" nor "offline_alpha"

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TL;DR: Probably not the Everything Service. online: and offline: verbs disagree.

The negated !online: verb DOES work (not pictured), the offline: verb does NOT whether negated or not.

the alpha shading does not.
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Re: Offline volumes not "offline:" nor "offline_alpha"

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I forgot to mention. The volumes are mounted VeraCrypt volumes, and flagged as "Removable Media" too. Maybe one of those two facts things are messing things up. But it's still weird that Online/Offline can have a third "Blank" state, ever. It's weird that the Indexes->NTFS recognizes them as Offline and Online without a hitch.

I tested with another true Fixed Drive and it shows the status as "Offline" and the offline: verb works.
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Re: Offline volumes not "offline:" nor "offline_alpha"

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blank online status means unknown.

online: matches online volumes only.
offline: matches offline volumes only (where the status is known)
!offline: (the opposite of offline:) matches online volumes and volumes where the online status is unknown.

I'll run some tests with VeraCrypt on my end...
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