is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

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skribb
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is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by skribb »

if i sort by e.g size, the files and folders will group separately, which i find no real use for.

i often sort by size and i want files and folders to be mixed view rather than sorted into separate categoriges.

i couldn't find a setting for this in Everything. is this possible? :D
NotNull
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by NotNull »

That is not possible. This is due to the way Everything is organized internally: files and folders are stored in separate internal "databases".
This makes Everything faster.


What you could do, is limit the number of search results, by specifying a specific size (range):
For example, enter this search query in the search bar:

Code: Select all

size:huge
Explanation and (a lot) more search possibilities can be found here
Most of these possibilities are also accessible in a GUI. For that, go to Menu:Search > Advanced Search.
skribb
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by skribb »

thank you.

is it possible to reverse the sorting so that folders appear before files?


at least , making a hotkey for "folder" search helped a lot in finding folders faster :D
NotNull
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by NotNull »

Good news, @skribb!

Recently - 4 weeks ago - the alpha version of Everything 1.5 was released.
In this 1.5 version you can mix folders and files!

If you want to test it (or simply use it; it is quite stable already): start here.

More info on new sorting possibilities here
skribb
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by skribb »

Oh cool!

i downloaded it now and i can't exclude folders. when i save the settings it re-does "sorting files" ad infinitum and the CPU is at 90% until i kill Everything 1.5a
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by NotNull »

That is less cool ...

First guess: you sorted by something (like Size) that is not in the Everything database, which causes Everything to inspect every single file individually.

Make sure that property is included in the database. For example, Size:
  • Go to Menu:Tools > Options > Indexes
  • Check Index file size, Index folder size and Fast size sort
  • Click the OK button
  • Let Everything do it's thing (might take a minute).
  • Try again
Does that help?
skribb
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by skribb »

Well, those were already checked.

if i only exclude a tiny folder, it sorts the files quickly. if i exclude an entire drive, mega slowness.

but in 1.4 i have several drives excluded and i don't recall it being slow at excluding when i first applied the exclusions.
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by NotNull »

I have no solution for you at the moment - here Everything 1.5 is even faster than 1.4 - but someone else might.

How do you exclude these folders?
- By excluding them on the search bar (i.e. ext:doc !c:\windows)
- By excluding them through a Filter (Menu:Search > Organize Filters)
- Through Temporary Excludes (Menu:Index > Enable Temporary Excludes)
- By excluding them from the index completely (Menu:Tools > Options > Indexes > Exclude)

?
skribb
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by skribb »

yeah, > Options > Indexes > Exclude

i'm guessing there's a combination of settings which causes this? it does feel like a bug.....

however, if i just go to Indexes>NTFS and then uncheck "include in database" for the drives i want to exclude, it doesn't show files from those drives in the results window, effectively producing the same search results! so, maybe i'm just using the drive exclusions the wrong way from the start and drives should really be excluded from the database via Indexes>NTFS?
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by void »

Thank you for the feedback skribb,

With your exclude filters active, could you please send me your Everything-1.5a.ini in %APPDATA%\Everything

I will look into the exclude issue..

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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by skribb »

here you go!
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by void »

Thank you for the Everything.ini skribb,

Everything is getting stuck trying to index your J: and K: drives.

I am working on a fix..

For now, could you please try changing your exclude list:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Exclude tab on the left.
  • Select J: and click Remove.
  • Select K: and click Remove.
  • Click the NTFS tab on the left.
  • Select J: and uncheck Include in database.
  • Select K: and uncheck Include in database.
  • Click OK.
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by skribb »

void wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:15 am Thank you for the Everything.ini skribb,

Everything is getting stuck trying to index your J: and K: drives.

I am working on a fix..

For now, could you please try changing your exclude list:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Exclude tab on the left.
  • Select J: and click Remove.
  • Select K: and click Remove.
  • Click the NTFS tab on the left.
  • Select J: and uncheck Include in database.
  • Select K: and uncheck Include in database.
  • Click OK.
K:? you mean Y: =)


yes, i've already done that!

see above: viewtopic.php?p=36360#p36296

this effectively removes the error for me!
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by void »

Everything 1.5.0.1254a fixes an issue with getting stuck indexing when you have an exclude filter.

Please let me know if the issue persists.
skribb
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by skribb »

void wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:38 am Everything 1.5.0.1254a fixes an issue with getting stuck indexing when you have an exclude filter.

Please let me know if the issue persists.
Seems to work now. :D
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Re: is it possible to mix folders+files when sorting?

Post by raccoon »

I thought it worth updating this thread.

1.5a has since added the menu option View > Sort By > Mix Files and Folders.

Also, these search syntax verbs can be used instead.
mix-sort:
no-mix-sort:
sort-mix:
no-sort-mix:

Mix file and folder results together when sorting results.
Overrides the mix file and folder setting in the UI.

Enabling will slightly reduce search performance.
Combine with sort: to set the sort order.
Only works for name, path, size, date modified, date created, date accessed and attribute sorts.
Fast sorting must also be enabled.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10176
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