Why this missing hit?

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terrypin
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Why this missing hit?

Post by terrypin »

Why does this search with 'explorer.exe' not include the obvious C:\Windows\Explorer.exe ?

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK
therube
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Re: Why this missing hit?

Post by therube »

It's a hardlink to one of the ones in WinSxS.
You're running a version of Everything that does not enumerate all of the associated links.

Try, Everything 1.4.0.713b Beta.
terrypin
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Re: Why this missing hit?

Post by terrypin »

Thanks, but I've never before heard of 'WinSxS' and a brief google confirms it's outside my IT technical comfort zone.

I avoid betas.

In simple end-user terms, what should I understand from this please? What sort of 'obvious' hits (i.e. that most users would expect to see in a search with the current Everything release) are never going to get displayed, like this one? Up till now I've assumed the results were comprehensive! (Even showing Recycle Bin contents which I've now excluded after your help.)

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK
horst.epp
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Re: Why this missing hit?

Post by horst.epp »

terrypin wrote:Thanks, but I've never before heard of 'WinSxS' and a brief google confirms it's outside my IT technical comfort zone.

I avoid betas.

In simple end-user terms, what should I understand from this please? What sort of 'obvious' hits (i.e. that most users would expect to see in a search with the current Everything release) are never going to get displayed, like this one? Up till now I've assumed the results were comprehensive! (Even showing Recycle Bin contents which I've now excluded after your help.)

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK
If you don't understand what hardlinks are you have never read common articles about Windows.
It looks like you should stay with Windows search functions
because you are not willing to learn any other tool and also expect that every tool is finished for each of it releases.
At all a very strange attitude for using a free program.
therube
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Re: Why this missing hit?

Post by therube »

With hardlinks, in Everything 1.3, only one instance of the link is enumerated.
Which one it happens to be is not determinable.

So you may see explorer.exe in C:\Windows or you may see it elsewhere, no way to say.

MS OS use hardlinks. Hardlinks are far more pervasive in OS > XP, where most everything within C:\Windows is hardlinked elsewhere.
terrypin
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Re: Why this missing hit?

Post by terrypin »

therube wrote:With hardlinks, in Everything 1.3, only one instance of the link is enumerated.
Which one it happens to be is not determinable.

So you may see explorer.exe in C:\Windows or you may see it elsewhere, no way to say.

MS OS use hardlinks. Hardlinks are far more pervasive in OS > XP, where most everything within C:\Windows is hardlinked elsewhere.
Thanks, appreciate your follow-up. Understood some of it, but still seems counter-intuitive that a physical program file with a specific location (C:\Windows\explorer.exe in this case, as reported by any file explorer tool) is not reported at that location by Everything.

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK
SuperDude
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Re: Why this missing hit?

Post by SuperDude »

@terrypi:

Use Everything v1.4.0.717b - it will find everything you're expecting Everything to find. Direct download links:

http://www.voidtools.com/Everything-1.4.0.717b.x64.zip
http://www.voidtools.com/Everything-1.4.0.717b.x86.zip

"I avoid betas"

I have been using Everything v1.4.0.717b (64-bit) for a long time now, and while it is a BETA, it is very stable. It also fixes a tooltip bug (where they wouldn't appear when hovering the mouse cursor over a file name).

"Thanks, but I've never before heard of 'WinSxS' and a brief google confirms it's outside my IT technical comfort zone."

Respectfully, if you've never heard of WinSxS, you can't blame Everything for this. Everything is a very simple piece of software, function-wise, that uses some advanced techniques for finding file and folder names.

"Up till now I've assumed the results were comprehensive!"

Never assume anything! ;)
terrypin
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Re: Why this missing hit?

Post by terrypin »

Thanks a bunch, SuperDude! With that reassurance I went ahead.

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BTW, I had a few hoops to jump through to install it, as Windows 10 persisted in telling me it might damage my computer ;-)
That sort of thing is proving a PITA coming fresh to Win 10 from 15 years of XP. I think I succeeded by (nervously) switching off something called SmartScan.
There was also a dialog asking for a choice of option about indexing and I think I chose the second, something like 'Allow Everything Service'?

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